MSP’s Thinking with your Dick #2

In case you missed earlier conversations with Dick, you can read about him – and our sex talks – here.

Dr. Debby

Have you seen the Forbes.com report on America’s "most lustful" cities? If not, don’t look! Off the top of your head – what cities would you pick and using what criteria to judge the cities that are “most lustful”?

Dick

first city that comes to mind… Tulsa, but that’s just a feeling.

Dr. Debby

Is that just because Tulsa spelled backwards is "a slut"?

Dick

wow, i didnt even realize. it also has ‘lust’ in the name.  i’m sticking by it. my hunch was dead on.

 

(Later on…)

Dick

i’m still trying to wrap my head around what they mean by lustful cities, and i’m fairly certain that Forces and I would define the word differently, but here are my top 5 (excluding Tulsa which we’ve already discussed)…

Dr. Debby

Okay, ready.

Dick

#5. NYC/Miami/San Fran – they’re the obvious choices, so i’m lumping them together. you didn’t say who was lusting over what, and since these three cities have a ton of people lusting over all sorts of crap, i’m putting them on the list.   just about any dude on earth could get his dick wet in one of these cities by any number of people/things.  everyone knows this, and it’s the reason so many people move there, therefore i deem it ‘lustful’

Dr. Debby

I’m from Miami and it certainly is a hot bed of lust, but it’s low on things like mainstream adult bookstores/sex shops and high on sex workers, HIV/AIDS and other STIs. Next?

Dick

Austin, TX – i spent 18 hours there on business and wish i could go back.  UT has tons of hot women, the weather is pretty good, and 6th street is basically Bourbon street with BBQ instead of Po Boys.  to sum it up, one could lust for women, food, or weather and get it all, not to mention 10 gallon hats and belt buckles are totally acceptable accessories.

(The rest of the conversation can be found after the jump).

 

Dr. Debby

Also Austin is the jewel in the crown of an otherwise sex-negative state. Texas is famous for a lack of good sex education. #3?

Dick

#3. Key West, FL – i’ve never been, but i kinda just imagine every night to be like the scene in The Firm where tom cruise can’t help but have sex with that girl on the beach with all the tiki torches and outdoor bars.   it ends up screwing up his whole life, but it still sorta seems worth it.  that’s lust.

Dr. Debby

I never exactly thought that scene from The Firm made the whole life-ruining thing seem "worth it" but okay. Either way, Key West is certainly lustful but seems to have more opportunities for gay/bisexual men than straight men. Next?

Dick

#2. Atlantic City, NJ – its kind of a dump, but it defines lustful. forgive a poorly thought out analogy, but here goes…las vegas is like having making love to a beautiful woman. it’s sexy, new, confidence boosting, and ultimately you get your rocks off.   AC, on the other hand, is like jerking off with cold hand lotion.  it’s not sexy, its old, it’s embarassing, BUT, ultimately you get your rocks off just the same.   what i mean is, the one constant between the two is that you will cum both ways.  vegas and AC are similar. the feeling you have a the end is sorta the same, but the trip is entirely different. and since the only constant is this shared sense of lust, AC must be more lustful because it has nothing else going for it. also, its the only place i know of that still has ‘street walkers’ out int he open .

   

Dr. Debby

Wow… I’m not really sure what to say here other than that I’m sorry that masturbating with cold hand lotion embarrasses you. As for the streetwalkers, check out Biscayne Blvd in Miami where it’s pretty out in the open, and the northeast side of Indy. Moving on though, what’s your #1 Most Lustful City?

Dick

#1. New Orleans, LA – this is too obvious to waste words on.  i spent about a week there this summer and it was amazing.   your whole day is built around having certain desires and trying to fulfill them wihtout anyone stopping you. in fact, everything is encouraged.  what could be more lustful?  oh, and i made out with a black chick with a perfect body in a bathroom in new orleans. that’s gotta count for something. what did forbes pick?

Dr. Debby

Denver, San Antonio, Portland, Seattle, Salt Lake City/Boise (seriously), DC (they could have relied on political scandals for this vote, but instead they still went with condom and contraceptive sales figures, which is how they selected their "most lustful" cities), Cinci (though they neglected to mention that Pure Romance is based shortly outside the city), Baltimore and Buffalo/Rochester. Again, based on condom/contraceptive sales (their list is here: http://www.forbes.com/2007/12/17/health-lust-cities-forbeslife-cx_rr_1217health.html )

Dick

ok, this is the stupidest f*cking list i’ve ever seen.  the places that buy condoms should be at the bottom of the list, not the top.   if they were lusting so bad they’d just go out and bang anything they could, babies and STDs be damned. The first few on this should top the ‘most precautious’ list.

Dr. Debby

Thankfully many of us can mix our lust with safer sex too, though I agree that sales of condoms/contraceptives are probably not an accurate way of measuring "lust". Perhaps the Forbes list should be a list of the "Most Prepared for Sex".

Dick

salt lake city is actually a pretty good call. ever read Under The Banner Of Heaven?   the mormons basically created a religion to justify banging multiple women at the same time, and made it totally acceptable to tap 13-year old virgins. i’ll give them some lust points.

Dr. Debby

Hey, most contemporary Mormons don’t subscribe to those ideas!!

Dick

On to Cincy – What is Pure Romance?  unless its a Studio 54/Wal Mart hybrid in the suburbs, Cincy has no place on this list.

Dr. Debby

Pure Romance is one of the leading in-home romance party companies (think Tupperware parties, but they sell sex toys, lubricants and massage products instead).

Dick

DC, fine. plenty of college kids, politicians and poor people.  lustful enough.

Dr. Debby

High STI rates too. DC has the highest HIV/AIDS rate in the country, though I don’t know that that makes a city "lustful" (just not suitable enough public health efforts).

Dick

Watch The Wire to figure out why Baltimore is wrong.

Dr. Debby

Though Baltimore does have a history of having had super high STI rates (including a pretty bad syphilis epidemic at one point) so using your "bang anything they could, babies and STDs be damned" philosophy, that should count for something. Then again, I’d say they had high STI rates because they are often very underserved.

Dick

and Buffalo/Rochester?  they’re not even the same place.   Why not just combine the Dakotas and put them on here…

About Dr. Debby Herbenick

Dr. Debby Herbenick

Dr. Debby Herbenick is a sex researcher at Indiana University, sexual health educator at The Kinsey Institute, columnist, and author of five books about sex and love. Learn more about her work at www.sexualhealth.indiana.edu.

  • http://getting-off.blogspot.com/ Ann

    I just found your website through BlogHer and I’ve spent the last while reading back through your archives. Great information!

  • http://getting-off.blogspot.com Ann

    I just found your website through BlogHer and I’ve spent the last while reading back through your archives. Great information!

  • http://www.edthegent.com Ed the Gent

    “(On Atlantic City) it’s not sexy, its old, it’s embarassing, BUT, ultimately you get your rocks off just the same. what i mean is, the one constant between the two is that you will cum both ways.”

    Doesn’t this bloke ever venture to another city just for the vistas? At least Dick is singular in purpose.

    I would say the most lustful city – internationally speaking – is Budapest. Not only is the city physically noteworthy, but the women there are disarmingly gorgeous. I remember finding myself unable to eat my Rigo Jancsi without dropping it on the floor after catching sight of yet another fetching lass.

    EtG

  • http://www.edthegent.com/ Ed the Gent

    “(On Atlantic City) it’s not sexy, its old, it’s embarassing, BUT, ultimately you get your rocks off just the same. what i mean is, the one constant between the two is that you will cum both ways.”

    Doesn’t this bloke ever venture to another city just for the vistas? At least Dick is singular in purpose.

    I would say the most lustful city – internationally speaking – is Budapest. Not only is the city physically noteworthy, but the women there are disarmingly gorgeous. I remember finding myself unable to eat my Rigo Jancsi without dropping it on the floor after catching sight of yet another fetching lass.

    EtG

  • Dick

    Ed The Gent,

    In case you were wondering, I’m not a John, and don’t go to cities simply for the ‘vistas’, whatever that means (I suspect it’s British).

    As for your international suggestion, you couldn’t be more wrong. I spent 3 nights in Budapest a few years ago, and the women i saw looked like extras in battle scenes from Saving Private Ryan. That’s forgivable, and possibly my fault for not goign to the right bars, but this story is why i think you need to reconsider…

    While there on vacation, I went to a co-ed Turkish bathhouse on the Pest side of the river to get a massage. I expected a warm steamy room and a fat Eurasian lady working my deep tissue. What i got was horrifying by comparison.

    Upon arrival in the men’s locker room, I was asked to strip naked, and given only a napkin-sized apron thing to cover my junk, but leave my ass bare. then i was escorted to a back room, far from the other bathers. this room was tiled from ceiling to floor, and had 6 stainless steel tables like you’d see in a morgue. i was told to lie on one of these cold tables by a nice enough guy, only to be met minutes later by a 300lb turkish man covered by nothing but a small towel and his chest hair. this was the masseuse (spelling?). he motioned for me to lay down, bare-ass up, and proceeded to hose me down( literally, he used a garden hose). when i was wet enough he began to soap my back, and arms. i guess he sensed my tension, because he started to speed the process up and move to more sensitive parts. before long he was soaping my ass cheeks and upper thighs. i was not enjoying myself, and i’m sure he noticed, because about 10 minutes into a 45 minute massage he grunted something, bare-hand slapped me on the ass and motioned to get up. he then hosed me off and pointed to the door as if i was to blame for not wanting his soapy hands in my crack.

    pray tell Ed The Gent, what the hell is lustful about that?

  • http://Thisone Dick

    Ed The Gent,

    In case you were wondering, I’m not a John, and don’t go to cities simply for the ‘vistas’, whatever that means (I suspect it’s British).

    As for your international suggestion, you couldn’t be more wrong. I spent 3 nights in Budapest a few years ago, and the women i saw looked like extras in battle scenes from Saving Private Ryan. That’s forgivable, and possibly my fault for not goign to the right bars, but this story is why i think you need to reconsider…

    While there on vacation, I went to a co-ed Turkish bathhouse on the Pest side of the river to get a massage. I expected a warm steamy room and a fat Eurasian lady working my deep tissue. What i got was horrifying by comparison.

    Upon arrival in the men’s locker room, I was asked to strip naked, and given only a napkin-sized apron thing to cover my junk, but leave my ass bare. then i was escorted to a back room, far from the other bathers. this room was tiled from ceiling to floor, and had 6 stainless steel tables like you’d see in a morgue. i was told to lie on one of these cold tables by a nice enough guy, only to be met minutes later by a 300lb turkish man covered by nothing but a small towel and his chest hair. this was the masseuse (spelling?). he motioned for me to lay down, bare-ass up, and proceeded to hose me down( literally, he used a garden hose). when i was wet enough he began to soap my back, and arms. i guess he sensed my tension, because he started to speed the process up and move to more sensitive parts. before long he was soaping my ass cheeks and upper thighs. i was not enjoying myself, and i’m sure he noticed, because about 10 minutes into a 45 minute massage he grunted something, bare-hand slapped me on the ass and motioned to get up. he then hosed me off and pointed to the door as if i was to blame for not wanting his soapy hands in my crack.

    pray tell Ed The Gent, what the hell is lustful about that?

  • http://www.edthegent.com/ Ed the Gent

    Herr Dick,

    Good God, Mate! From the sounds of it, you almost ended up in an amateur version of “Hostel 3.” Frankly, were I in your shoes, I would have let your common sense prevail and say to the masseuse (spelling right, by the way) “I’m sorry, I have the wrong establishment. I must excuse myself immediately.” If the fat bloke protested, I would have added, “well, for one, you are neither Hungarian nor Asian, and I am not to have my backside treated as though it were a roasted lamb on a spit.” Then I would have ran like the wind to the nearest strip club to erase the sight of the man’s scantily clad adipose body from my memory.

    And it is a pity you had not explored the Pest side of the river further, for perhaps you would have stumbled upon a poorly filmed beauty pageant.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZX0f66yEss&feature=related

    Thank you for your tale and your reply. You are, as we say in the old country, “a right bloke.”

    EtG

  • http://www.edthegent.com Ed the Gent

    Herr Dick,

    Good God, Mate! From the sounds of it, you almost ended up in an amateur version of “Hostel 3.” Frankly, were I in your shoes, I would have let your common sense prevail and say to the masseuse (spelling right, by the way) “I’m sorry, I have the wrong establishment. I must excuse myself immediately.” If the fat bloke protested, I would have added, “well, for one, you are neither Hungarian nor Asian, and I am not to have my backside treated as though it were a roasted lamb on a spit.” Then I would have ran like the wind to the nearest strip club to erase the sight of the man’s scantily clad adipose body from my memory.

    And it is a pity you had not explored the Pest side of the river further, for perhaps you would have stumbled upon a poorly filmed beauty pageant.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZX0f66yEss&feature=related

    Thank you for your tale and your reply. You are, as we say in the old country, “a right bloke.”

    EtG

  • Dick

    Ed,
    for a long time i’ve been skeptical of blogs, chat rooms, and the internet in general. now i see why people like it this so much. without the world wide web i’d never have been called a ‘right bloke’. i’m sold on this interweb stuff.

    since you’re a lively chap, i’ll throw this one at you…

    which western european city has the best looking ATTAINABLE women? i’ve traveled to a few of the larger cities, and even a few smaller ones, and for the most part been impressed by the women, but i find the bars to be much like the museums in your part of the world – everything is very pretty, but the look but don’t touch rule is in effect. so, where do you go to find europeans who are attractive AND willing to show you their ‘bits’?

    Dick

  • http://Thisone Dick

    Ed,
    for a long time i’ve been skeptical of blogs, chat rooms, and the internet in general. now i see why people like it this so much. without the world wide web i’d never have been called a ‘right bloke’. i’m sold on this interweb stuff.

    since you’re a lively chap, i’ll throw this one at you…

    which western european city has the best looking ATTAINABLE women? i’ve traveled to a few of the larger cities, and even a few smaller ones, and for the most part been impressed by the women, but i find the bars to be much like the museums in your part of the world – everything is very pretty, but the look but don’t touch rule is in effect. so, where do you go to find europeans who are attractive AND willing to show you their ‘bits’?

    Dick

  • http://www.edthegent.com/ Ed the Gent

    Dick,

    Glad to be of service, and thank you for your question. I have taken the liberty to answer it on my “online journal,” as it was a provocative topic. I have also taken the liberty of giving you a different name from the one Dr. Debby uses with you. You can visit the response by using this link:

    http://www.edthegent.com/2008/01/chatting-with-right-bloke-richard.html

    Enjoy and ciao,
    EtG

  • http://www.edthegent.com Ed the Gent

    Dick,

    Glad to be of service, and thank you for your question. I have taken the liberty to answer it on my “online journal,” as it was a provocative topic. I have also taken the liberty of giving you a different name from the one Dr. Debby uses with you. You can visit the response by using this link:

    http://www.edthegent.com/2008/01/chatting-with-right-bloke-richard.html

    Enjoy and ciao,
    EtG

  • Dick

    good shit (as we say in america). i’ll be sure to ‘blog’ with you on your ‘online journal’ soon. left to right, top to bottom over there, or do you guys read and write on the opposite sides too? don’t want to offend any right blokes who might read your stuff…

    right bloke richard
    aka Dick

  • http://Thisone Dick

    good shit (as we say in america). i’ll be sure to ‘blog’ with you on your ‘online journal’ soon. left to right, top to bottom over there, or do you guys read and write on the opposite sides too? don’t want to offend any right blokes who might read your stuff…

    right bloke richard
    aka Dick